How Much Should My Company Budget For Filming A Television Commercial

VIDEO PRODUCTION COSTS?

So you're thinking of making television, YouTube, or Facebook commercials and want to know how much it costs? We get this question nearly every week. The short answer is "it depends." Your needs, tastes, and many other factors determine a TV commercial production cost. So the short answer is that producing a TV commercial could easily range anywhere from $1,500 to $150,000 depending on many different variables. 

START SIMPLE

My business doesn't have much advertising budget. Can you still help? Again, the short answer is "probably so ." Your competitors have launched a YouTube or Facebook campaign, and now you are seeing their spots on local television. Producing content that can compete with your competitors may seem out of reach, but there are steps you can take right away that will make an impact on your bottom line. For example, if you are a small business and need to get a 30 second TV spot under your belt to quiet the competition, we can help. The cost to produce a 30-second commercial could run you as little as $1,500 – $3,500. Simple video productions with text, graphics, royalty-free music, and a professional voice-over could be the short answer to your initial goal.

LEVEL UP

Still asking: How much do commercials cost to produce? Lets' look at an example of leveling up your production a few notches. Let's say you have a product or service that can make you millions. If only you could put together a 30-second direct response campaign that can air on television. You may need actors, a makeup artist, a pro video crew, maybe a studio and a director, and a few other things. More prominent commercials like this with all the bells and whistles can easily cost you anywhere from $100k or more. But tell me this, what business owner out there wouldn't trade a $100,000 investment for a $1M return? I don't know a single one that would turn down an opportunity like that. 

The cost of producing a television commercial in this price range is much more than the START SIMPLE example above because there are so many more moving parts. Among other things, you will need seasoned professionals at every turn to help keep all of the balls in the air. A professional video production company like ours will help manage your TV commercial from beginning to end so that everything makes sense when we wrap up the shoot.

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BUDGET ISN’T A CONCERN?

Hypothetically you tell me that budget is not a concern for you. However, you have particular needs and discerning taste and are willing to pay whatever the cost. In situations like this, production costs are not your concern; you will need to tell us precisely what you want. Then it's our job to craft that desire into reality. Similar projects can easily fetch anywhere from 150k up to well over 1 million dollars. These high-end costs will depend on a well-known director attached, a celebrity or famous athlete, or an influencer from another industry. The price can balloon north of that, depending on what is attached to the scope.


SEND US A REFERENCE VIDEO

Costs almost always depend ultimately on what you want. So, if your question is "how much does it cost to produce a tv commercial" but you aren't sure what you want, consider this. It can be beneficial to surf through YouTube and look for similar video concepts that already exist. Reference material like this will give us a much clearer idea of your concept, enabling us to put together an estimate based on that reference video quickly. That said, you can always feel free to give me a call, and we can walk through the process together. My studio line is 573-893-9917, and I'm always happy to chat and give you a free estimate.


HOW MUCH DOES TV ADVERTISING COST?

So you have your finished commercial, now - how much does TV advertising cost? TV airtime costs are the golden question to which there are a plethora of answers. For example, the airing of a 30-second commercial can range anywhere from $50 per spot to $1,500 or $20,000 per spot. But, of course, as I've said two or three times already, it all depends on a few different variables.

Where your TV Advertising is going to air will ultimately determine how much your advertising will cost. For example, suppose your TV Advertising target market is toward regional or local markets. In that case, you could spend as little as $50 per 30-second commercial.


I AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO AIR LOCAL COMMERCIALS

Take this example and suppose you want to Advertise on a local station in a 65,000 household footprint close to your business. In that case, you likely can get better rates than a broader coverage area. The only caveat is that your TV Advertising will only be aired and viewed in that particular area or zone.

However, suppose you want to reach more areas with your message during a primetime broadcast network TV program. Time slots like this can be upwards of $10,000 plus per 30 second TV spot in that case. The main stipulation here is that you will be broadcast on every TV within the selected coverage and reap the benefits of a much broader coverage area.


LOOKING AT NATIONAL TV?

If local TV advertising isn't enough to reach, you may want to spread your message to the masses; and national television is the way to go. Keep in mind that a single 30-second spot can cost you anywhere from $25,000 to $150,000. Depending on the network and the timeslot in which your commercial airs, the costs will range. Want to go for broke? A commercial aired during the Super Bowl, you can look to spend an astonishing 4 to 5 million for a single 30-second commercial. Whether you want a local television spot for your business, service, or product, or you want to reach the masses with your message, it's all possible. But first, you have to create the commercial, and that's where we excel. The creative. Not sure where to begin? Lets' look at several budget examples below, which will help you gain a better "ballpark" estimate for your next project. 


HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLE BUDGETS TO HELP YOU GET STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHERE YOUR PROJECT MIGHT FALL IN TERMS OF COST:

 

• BUDGET RANGE  $800 – $1,000

This budget allows for a commercial is made up of still photographs, a professional voice-over, and client-provided artwork.

• BUDGET RANGE  $1,500 – $2,500

This budget allows for a commercial for many small businesses and includes royalty-free music and a voice-over.

• BUDGET RANGE   $2,500 – $3,500

This budget allows for a commercial shot on location with one talent, HMU, professional voice-over, and other voice actors.

• BUDGET RANGE   $2,500 – $3,500

This budget allows for a commercial testimonial-style commercial to promote your systems, products, or services and includes an animated logo at the end.

• BUDGET RANGE   $3,500 – $5,500

This budget allows for a commercial production shot in 1 or 2 locations in full HD, with a four-person crew, using a drone to capture the clients' work in progress. In addition, one professional voice-over and audio bed licensing included in this budget range. 

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• BUDGET RANGE   $6,500 – $9,000

This budget allows for a commercial shot over two days, with a three-person film crew, including HMU, craft, and catering. We can use some professional actors, mixed with faculty and staff as our talent.

• BUDGET RANGE   $10,000 – $15,000

This budget allows for a commercial in several locations around the city, filming with a 4-5 plus talent crew and some extras: minimal graphic animations, titling, and sound effects. 

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• BUDGET RANGE   $10,000 – $20,000

This budget allows for commercial filming ample B-Roll and on-location "Talking Head" segments over two days. Will will work closely with our client to secure locations and talent if needed. We use a 4-5 person crew, which allows for a professional audio person/drone pilot, director, camera operator, and key grip.

• BUDGET RANGE   $20,000 – $30,000

This budget allows for a commercial in a studio or on location over two days. We are using a 4-6 person crew, which allows for a professional audio person/drone pilot, director, camera operator, and key grip. Additionally, this budget range allows time for filming ample B-Roll and on location with "Talking Head" segments over two days. It's common practice for us to always work closely with our clients to secure shoot locations and talent if needed. Graphic animations, music bed licensing, finished in both HD and 4k formats. 

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• BUDGET RANGE   $30,000 – $40,000

This budget allows for a commercial in different cities (or a single major city) across the US. In addition, we use several HD cameras to capture raw emotions from the unsuspecting participants.

• BUDGET RANGE   $40,000 – $50,000

This budget allows for a commercial in several cities. Each of our crew members follows specific creative instructions to get the right shot. Thus, securing permits for multiple locations and coordinate seamlessly with our freelance teams across the globe to ensure the appropriate look & feel for the client brand.

• BUDGET RANGE   $50,000 – $60,000

This budget allows for filming at several locations out of state, including a complete casting, with actors, craft services/catering, HMU, wardrobe, location scouting, art department, and several pre-production meetings. In addition, approximately a 10-15 person production crew.

• BUDGET RANGE   $60,000 – $90,000

This budget allows for filming in a large city out of state, including a complete casting, professional actors, craft services/catering, HMU, wardrobe, location scouting, art department, and several pre-production meetings. As always, productions of this size require permits and a boatload of pre-production planning and coordinating to pull the job off seamlessly and effectively.

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WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST OF TV COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION?

The total costs of producing a television commercial can range significantly based on many different factors. Therefore, we're highlighting the cost expectations for various commercials based on length, production value, and other elements. In doing so, this should aid you in better understanding what you can expect for average costs of TV commercial production and what kind of situations you might encounter. Bear in mind, commercial advertising is costly but also highly effective and tends to have a substantial ROI. So as you visualize these average costs, try to imagine the ROI you may achieve with a professionally produced television ad.

PRODUCTION CREW AVERAGE COSTS

One of the greatest determinants of the overall cost of making a TV commercial is the crew size and experience. The larger and more experience your crew has will play a huge role in the expenses involved in production. A large crew will have higher costs than a small crew would. Similarly, an experienced crew will likely charge more per hour or per day than a crew with little to no experience. Below is a few industry averages crew rates look like: (keep in mind these all range on skill & experience as well as geographic location)

  • Director $2500 - $4000 day (or 5-10% of the total budget)

  • Director (Larger Name) $5000 - $10k day

  • DP $1200 - $1800 day (or more depending on skill & experience)

  • 1st Assistant Camera $600 - $800 day

  • 2nd AC $350 - $500 day

  • Gaffer $550 - $800 day (plus gear if needed, $1000 - $4000)

  • Producer $800 -$1000 day

  • DIT (Digital Technician) $700 day (plus gear if needed, $500 - $1500 range)

  • Audio Technician $650 - $1000 (plus gear if need, $350 range)

  • Steadicam Op $1800 - $2200 day with gear

  • Drone Operator / Pilot $1500, $3000 & $4500 day (depending on gear)

  • HMU (Hair & Make Up) $400 - $1200 day

  • Script Writer $50 – $150 p/h

  • Editor $95 – $175 p/h

  • Actors $100 -$500 p/h

  • Equipment – up to $100s p/h

  • Studio Shooting – up to $400 p/h

  • Narrator – >$100 – $400 p/h

  • Audio Files – up to $ 1000's

  • Video Rendering – up to $75 p/h

  • B-Roll – generally speaking, between 10 and 50% of your total production cost to go towards B-Roll

  • Miscellaneous – can cost very little, up to 1000's extra


THE LENGTH OF YOUR COMMERCIAL DOES NOT DICTATE PRICE

Another significant cost factor is the total length of your commercial. A television spot that is 30 seconds in length will almost always cost less than a commercial of similar production quality that is longer in duration. However, a 30-second spot likely can be created somewhere between $1,500 and up to $150K, which is an enormous spread. These budgets are so far apart that determining the average cost of a TV commercial based on its length may feel next to impossible. That's why length is seldom an excellent overall price determinant when evaluating what your project may end up costing.


PRODUCTION COMPLEXITY

One of the other significant determinants of total production cost is not the length or size of the crew but also complexity. What this refers to is how complex is it to create a specific concept for the client? An elaborate production is sure to have higher costs than something straightforward and basic. On the other hand, simple video productions will almost certainly require fewer resources, fewer variables for success, and an average lower cost. Compare this to a commercial shoot that includes intense animations or visual effects. Again, you will see a significant disparity in the price. If you're trying to cut costs, consider fewer VFX!

30 SECOND COMMERCIAL PRICING

The pricing of a 30-second commercial is mainly dependent on who produces the commercial and what style of production the finished project is. For example, a commercial with numerous special effects and animated graphics can easily elevate the production value. Still, it will likely cost more than the average $1,000 to $10,000 per finished minute. As a result, graphics and special effects, and animations can lead to substantially higher prices in general.

Commerical styles and production values can range significantly. For example, a simple commercial that showcases a particular restaurant but doesn't require a remarkable narrative or any significant graphic elements and special effects can likely cost around $750 to $1,500. However, think about some of the commercials shown during the Super Bowl. These ADS often have advanced storylines, intricate graphics, and other special effects that are incredibly impressive – and incredibly expensive.

COMMERCIAL COST DETERMINANTS

When you ask almost anyone in the creative industry, "How much does it cost to make a 30-second commercial?" They are likely to say, "well ... it depends." I bet nine times out of 10 that will be the answer you get. And it does depend. The cost of filming and producing commercials for broadcast depends on many different factors such as:

• Filming location

• Equipment needs

• Production value (quality)

• Post-production editing

• Talent

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PRODUCING VIDEO FOR TELEVISION

Producing video for the television advertising space requires professional equipment, experience, and expertise. From the early planning stages, a lot goes into the process. Pre-production meetings are where the original idea is crafted and then refined through the post-production stages. During editing and post-production, specialized techniques come into play. Finally, many professional hands work on your project before finishing for distribution. So how much does it cost to make a 30-second television commercial? Well, various factors influence the cost of making TV commercials. Time is one component that affects the price, but so does the location, production value, equipment, the production crew, and the list goes on and on. Professional video production may easily range from about $500 to well over $50,000 for 30 seconds.

AVERAGE COST OF A TELEVISION COMMERCIAL

To summarize, the average cost of TV commercial production ranges from about $1,200 per minute to somewhere north of $100,000. Typical commercials in the markets our studio serves are generally in the neighborhood of $1,500 to $20,000 for most projects. So, when planning your next Television, YouTube, or Facebook commercial spot, give me a call to help you navigate and make a high-performing commercial for your brand. 

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Behind the Scenes: Filming a Commercial

Here at the studio and on location, we do so much more than just still photography. You may or may not know that we are also a full service video production company with a focus on helping businesses and non profits, make videos that tell their stories in an engaging and informative way. In addition to video production, we have the unique ability to provide you with a full suite of commercial photography capabilities (not to mention our amazing facilities), as well as video marketing productions, live productions, and even live streaming events.

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Shot on RED Gemini 5K

Just wrapped up this spot, featuring our good friend / model / athlete Eden Hoogveld, again - riding atop the latest release of the RED Gemini 5K camera. Our concept this time was a fairly straightforward. A one minute spot, showcasing our talent and the great tasting Protein 2o water. With this in mind, I wanted to create an epic feel that was also gritty and heroic. For a while now, I have been looking for just the right project to collaborate with our talent (back in from LA), and this project was perfect! Also, before I get too far into this post, I want to give a a special shout out to my buddy Don Sisson for all the great behind the scenes photos he took during our shoot. Thanks Don!

Audio Voiceover Work

We started off the project with a very simple script, and brought Eden into the audio suite to record a few lines. She pretty much nailed it in as few as four or five takes, and I love how it turned out once we cut it together with our audio bed. This is actually where the entire project started, which is a GREAT way to work for me personally. After hearing the VO and audio pacing come together, I was able to plan out our shot list and then being to think visually about putting together all the pieces. This is 100% backwards from the way I’ve worked in the past. Typically I get all of the visuals out of the way first, and then deal with audio near the end of the process. I really liked doing it this way, and can definitely see myself applying this logic to many other projects down the road. (All the audio was edited in Adobe Audition using their multi-track feature). Once it was assembled, I output an entirely new track that we could ingest into Premier Pro.

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Still frame cropped from the S35 Gemini sensor

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As for the 5K format size again, I’m still loving it. The form factor and features have so many potential applications in the work I do. Shallow depth of field, wide FOV possibilities, a wide variety of glass options, etc… and editing the footage on my Mac is pretty much a breeze.

Camera Settings, Support and Miscellaneous Tools

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Nearly all of this project was shot at 5K, 24 fps and a few 60 fps, REDCODE RAW 8:1 (RED's compressed RAW format). This project was a 1-day shoot, in a variety of locations. I certainly didn’t overshoot footage this time around as to not tax Eden. If anything I undershot. That said, it’s ALWAYS important to remember the talent when shooting athletic work. Asking them to repeat the same movement over and over can be challenging even for the most fit. It’s easy to get lost in the technical bits and pieces behind the camera, so don’t forget about your talent. Give them lots of breaks, and bring snacks and water to drink.

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Using my trusty Yakima Big Stack I strapped down a 6 foot step ladder (yep, it works for more than just Kayaks) … but as I found out through social media they don’t “endorse” my method, yet credited me with being a creative problem solver. Anyway, brought the ladder along for shooting high angles but we ended up not needing it. Everything else was pretty simple. Packing a single full apple, 1 C-Stand, some sand bags, my production bag full of odds and ends, and our 4x6 Sunbounce … we were off and running.

Scouting our locations

Just days before our shoot I ran around like a crazy person looking for locations. Fortunately I found four or five spots that I thought might work nicely to show Eden working out. I pretty much alway grab some iPhone shots of those locations to put into our call sheet, or simply as reference photos to help with planning and producing the project. I also use a pretty cool tool called Photo Pills which is great for planning a shoot. I typically use the AR feature for tracking the sun path which helps me figure out when to shoot at each location.

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IDX and Indi-Pro V-Mount Batteries worked very well, giving us long lasting power, lightweight, and good form factor.

Each brick gave me plenty of uptime, and I’ve gotten into the habit of leaving the camera powered up at all times. The rebooting process takes a while, and when we’re trying to grab shots quickly it really helps to save time on set by not waiting for a camera to power on and off. I think I might have only used 3 bricks over the course of the day.

Still rollin’ with those Rokinon Primes 

As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm pretty new to the world of RED Cinema, and I don't have an unlimited budget for gear. This spot was self produced, and being an owner/operator, I've gone with a small set of Rokinon cinema lenses which so far I’ve been impressed with. I need to do some more extensive testing however, and put them up against some higher end cinema glass in the future. Even using the Rokinon glass, which is VERY affordable, this camera yields a crazy sharp image! This shot was achieved using the Rokinon 50mm f/1.5 prime lens.

My Go-To Rokinon 50mm f/1.5 prime lens

The goal again, was to shoot the vast majority at f/2.8 to f/5.6. We started shooting early in the morning, beginning with warm up stretches and some light running shots. The light was pretty consistent, but moved very quickly in terms of lux. We only used one additional source which was the California Sunbounce 4x6 frame to fill in a bit. The Gemini did a great job again, and I always make sure our color temperature is as close in camera as possible, making grading a bit easier.

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RED Gemini quick set up with our Rhino Slider

I’ve been totally happy with the size, weight, and form factor of this camera and it really works nicely on my old trusty Rhino slider for a small and compact setup that’s easy to move.

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Every setup was lit with available light, and a combination of the California Sunbounce 4x6 frame

Lighting was from one extreme to the other. Gorgeous and soft morning light, to midday Sun with harsh shadows. We didn’t have the budget, time, or the man power to modify the light much, so the lightweight Sunbounce was our best bet. We could move quickly and easily and get some nice frames. It would have been killer to go full on with some major lighting setups, but again we just didn’t have the budget or time, and I think using raw light gave us that gritty / documentary look I was going for anyway.

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Looking for f/2.8 - f/5.6 wasn’t tough at all. Tracking my subject gave me some challenges, but I think we came away with some really good results.

Image Quality

I mentioned this before, but I really do love that Adobe Premiere Pro CC that supports RED .R3D files natively without having to install any other software. This project was only a 1-day shoot but it is still nice to know that I can cut the footage right inside the app. Right now my flow is to still edit the .R3Ds natively in REDCINE-X Pro for mostly color balance, exposure, and contrast. Then jumping over into Premiere Pro for cutting and running into very few problems with the files. 1/8th playback is still my go-to, for time-sensitive cuts, 1/4 for QC related work, Full Resolution when paused for color and focus critical work.

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Gitzo Flexibility

I’ve gone back and forth on this issue using several different types of support. From traditional video tripods to still photography tripods. I still find myself loving and always coming back to the Gitzo sticks for getting those angles that I JUST CAN’T GET with other systems. It’s lightweight, but incredibly strong and will give me a working height of nearly 9 feet in the air, to just inches above the ground. That kind of flexibility in a run and gun scenario is tough to beat in my opinion.

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More BTS

Here we are working in a couple different locations getting a slider shot while showcasing the product, and then below, a stretching shot with the amazing cotton-wood elements blowing through our scene. I couldn’t have planned or produced it better if I tried! Totally magical.

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An amazing feature that I still love about working with motion cameras from today, is the ability to pull stills for the video with dang good quality. Off of the 5K S35, I’m getting 15.4 Megapixels, exporting out 16-bit TIFF files that are good looking images. This could produce a beautiful 9x16 inch print (without interpolation) at 300 DPI for each frame, though I’ve yet to print anything from them. The potential is exciting, and I can’t wait until I have the time set aside to do some printing for these stills.

Final Thoughts

I love this camera, plain and simple. It’s so easy to use, yet offers MASSIVE pro features and amazing quality right at your fingertips. Eden knocked it out of the park on this one, and Don was a tremendous help on set. Thank you both for your work!

I hope you enjoyed this little blurb, and thanks again for reading!

TRAVIS DUNCAN  |  ADVERTISING PHOTOGRAPHER BASED IN THE MIDWEST.  SPECIALIZING IN: PRODUCTS & ARCHITECTURAL PHOTOGRAPHY, and VIDEO PRODUCTIONS. 

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artisanSKIN - shot on RED Gemini 5K

artisanSKIN - shot on RED Gemini 5K

In December 2019, I had the unique opportunity to shoot a new project with a good friend Josh Luttrell, utilizing the latest release of the RED Gemini 5K camera. 5K cameras are certainly not a new thing, but for me this was new, and as much a camera test as actual production. That said, the Super 35 format, resolution, and low light capabilities are significant features for me, as very often, I don't know what challenges to expect from project to project. As an owner/operator, the Gemini checks off many boxes for me, giving me the confidence to take on nearly any situation.

Thoughts on 5K and RED Gemini

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On Set with the RED Gemini 5K.

RED Gemini 5K. A camera, format size, resolution, and low light sensitivity that is very appealing to me for many reasons. And questions. How's the image quality? The Workflow? What exactly can this amazing camera do? Let's dig in.

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As for the 5K format size and low light capabilities … In a word, it's incredible. This particular form factor and features have so many potential applications in the work I do. Shallow depth of field, wide FOV possibilities, a wide variety of glass options, etc... Considering the resolution as well, I've found quickly that my close up, mid, and wide shots hold so much richness but also draws on a very film-like smoothness.

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This camera can be used in many ways. There is enough resolution and format size to be extremely flexible, and the modularity of the RED system works amazingly well. In the photo below, you'll see the side-mounted monitor option, which was a LIFESAVER working in this extremely tight space. As for framing, on this particular project, there's no cropping, no reframing, no sharpening, just a 5K to a 4K downsample. And to me, I think the frames look fantastic.

Camera Settings and Rigging

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Nearly all of this project was shot at 5K, 60 fps, REDCODE RAW 8:1 (RED's compressed RAW format). There are also a few clips shot at 24fps 6:1 REDCODE RAW. This project was a 6-day shoot, and I certainly have the footage to prove it. Thankfully the REDCODE RAW compression saved my skin on storage, because RED storage media is anything but cheap. I captured hours of footage each day as Josh worked on various stages of the finishing process. The ISO Rating was mostly 250; however, this was also sort of a camera test, so you'll see shots in the ISO 320-1280 range too.

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RED Brick V-Mount Batteries have a decent form factor that work very well and provide long lasting power to the camera body

Each brick got me about 2.5 hours of uptime, and shooting days were long. We had roughly 6 days to pull off Josh's regular finish work on this single A-Style (Teardrop shape) Mandolin, with some gaps here and there to make room for Josh to work on his other customer's instruments.

Lens Selection

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All of the shoot was shot on Rokinon Primes 

I'm pretty new to the world of RED Cinema, and I don't have an unlimited budget for gear. Being an owner/operator, I've gone with a small set of Rokinon cinema lenses that have been performing great. I've compared these lenses to their Xeen counterparts, and for now, I simply can't justify taking on the additional cost of the glass. For now, we'll just keep renting specialty optics when it's appropriate to do so. Even using the Rokinon glass, which is VERY affordable, this camera yields a crazy sharp image! This shot was achieved using the Rokinon 50mm f/1.5 prime lens.

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This shot was achieved using the Rokinon 50mm f/1.5 prime lens

One goal for me, was to shoot the vast majority at f/2.8 to f/4. (Though there's a fair amount of f/1.5 and f/2 in there with a couple f/5 shots as well). The light was a bit all over the place. Some of the lights were dimmable on set, but we had a crazy mix of color temperatures from 7000k down the 2800k and possibly even warmer. The Gemini did a great job, and we got pretty close in camera to the correct temperature, making grading a bit easier.

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RED Gemini compact size allows me to move quickly and  position the camera in pretty tight spaces

I had the camera in some rather precarious situations. Literally on the ground looking up a Josh, or having to stand up on a 5-gallon bucket to look down over the shoulder as you can see from some of the images, I used a Rhino slider setup for a couple of shots, which worked nicely with the RED package. It is compact but packs enough strength to move the camera quickly and smoothly.

Lighting the Shop

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Nearly every setup was lit with available window light and practicals, and then 2 Luxli Cello’s Bi-Color units for fill

Lighting was tricky. This workshop was a SMALL room. I didn't want to go full-on with some of our more significant instruments, as there just wasn't enough space to go nuts with large diffusion panels. Josh's shop is full of materials and relatively tight spaces. So I tackled this with 2X Luxli Cellos to provide some fill in some of the background and used his desk lamp primarily serving as our key.

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Additionally we used available room light, or practicals. I was mixing these with daylight and the house fluorescents while filming during the shoot. Anywhere Josh went, and I didn't find the light I was looking for in the frame, I set up those little Cellos on Justin Clamps, and it worked out nicely. More or less a documentary look and feel. However, no handheld, all tripod, and a couple of slider shots.  

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I was mostly aiming for f/2 - f/4. Depending on how we quickly adjusted and positioned the various lights, we were able to get f/1.5 - f/4 if I felt that suited the composition better—focusing mostly on showing Josh's process, and finding creative angles in a minimal space.

Post Workflow

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Premiere Pro CC layout on my iMac 5K  and Eizo CG276 Displays 

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I love that Adobe Premiere Pro CC that supports RED .R3D files. This mandolin project was a 6-day shoot with many days of post-production. I edited the 5K HD .R3Ds natively in REDCINE-X Pro, and Premiere with no issues on my Mac even tested them out on my Laptop with very few problems. 1/8th playback for time-sensitive cuts, 1/4 for QC related work, Full Resolution when paused for critical work. Adaptive resolution and GPU support in our NLE software have genuinely changed the way we can work these last few years.

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In leveraging the REDCINE-X software, I executed the bulk of the color grade work. In the screengrab above, you can see a familiar UI that's relatively intuitive yet powerful. The grade was achieved manually in RCX, then individual clip adjustments via Lumetri within Premiere. I'm big on editing with native REDCODE RAW material on projects of this scale. This workflow should become commonplace on larger projects for me going forward, and it feels very natural coming from the world of RAW stills.

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Color: How the image looked in camera

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Color: Experimental Test Grade

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Color: Final Color Grade

I exported several versions at 2K and 4K. What you see on YouTube is a high bit-rate H.264 4K DCI encode. Then, of course, YouTube re-encodes that, and we end up losing a fair amount in translation. My Apple ProRes, and H.265 4K and 5K masters are much better than what you can see via the web at the moment.

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Color: How the image looked in camera

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Color: Experimental Test Grade

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Color: Final Color Grade

What you'll see in the final video is about 10% of what I shot in terms of the overall content. I had to leave a few things behind on the cutting floor, like Josh performing an initial coat of stain and then a ton of sanding, but my focus was on the overall process from beginning to end.

Stills from Motion

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This frame grab received no additional post processing

One thing I kept in mind while shooting was the potential of extracting stills from the motion pictures. At 5K S35, we're looking at 15.4 Megapixels, exporting out 16-bit TIF nets a damn good looking image file. This could produce a beautiful 9x16 inch print (without interpolation) at 300 DPI for each frame. There's much potential with that from a motion picture industry point of view. Suddenly marketing stills from productions could easily be printed as very high-quality double-page spreads, used for print ads, billboards, and more. I even spent some time after finishing this cut just sifting through all of the footage, much of which that I didn't include in the final piece, to explore some additional stills processing via Lightroom and Photoshop. The potential here is exciting.

Behind the scenes iPhone grab of the Gemini and Rhino setup

Behind the scenes iPhone grab of the Gemini and Rhino setup

Mandolin Information

Just a few notes about the Mandolin and the general concept for the shoot. As for the concept, I was looking for a somewhat unique story to tell, and have wanted to work with Master Finisher Josh Luttrell for many years. This short film would also be my first multi-day 5K RED shoot, so Josh's work fits the bill perfectly. His instruments have graced such talented musical hands as Steve Smith, CJ Lewandowski, Billy Bright, Baron Collins-Hill, Jordan Ramsey, Dan Bui, Tricia Ann Eaves, and more. This short documents Josh working over six days as he and constructs a gorgeous new finish on a Tom Ellis Custom A-Style Mandolin that features Adirondack Red Spruce on the top, and a premium grade Sugar Maple back. It was a special several days of shooting with Josh in his shop as I've always been a big fan of his work.

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Through this project, I've found the Adirondack Red Spruce wood to be one the most beautiful materials to fashion an acoustic instrument from, and the way Josh finishes them is second to none. His technique in the application of every stage of the finishing work, and extreme critical focus on the smallest details, clearly sets his work apart from the rest. The finish of the wood maintains its character, but the way Josh finishes it brings out a beauty that few would deny.

Final Thoughts

I'm so thrilled that my first 5K shoot was something special and unique like this. Josh has been great friend for many years, and everything came together nicely while filming this short. It's impressive to me that this whole thing was created nearly in 6 days with so much new and amazing technology. Having access to a camera with this level of features feels very liberating, and also provides a level of creative and technical freedom. Starting now begins my journey of capturing and working in 5K and the RED ecosystem.

I hope you enjoyed it and thanks for reading!

TRAVIS DUNCAN  |  ADVERTISING PHOTOGRAPHER BASED IN THE MIDWEST.  SPECIALIZING IN: PRODUCTS & ARCHITECTURAL PHOTOGRAPHY, and VIDEO PRODUCTIONS. 

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Good, Cheap or Fast? But you can only pick two!

What does this mean you ask, well ... it simply means there's always (and should always be) a trade-off when your phone rings. Remember, your prospective client gets to pick two!

Cheap + fast = lower quality work

Fast + good = expensive

Good + cheap = not happening anytime soon

So, in the graphic below, I've modified the famous Venn diagram to be in a list form. For whatever reason, it makes more sense in my mind when viewed this way, and it can be applied logicially to just about any artistic field. In the graphic, there are three ways a client can ask for a project to be completed (read on for more explanation). 


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For Example:

•You could produce photographs or put together a video production for a client, that is of good quality.

•You could produce photographs or put together a video production for a client that has a low price tag. 

•Or, you could produce photographs or video production for a client very quickly. 

HOWEVER, you should NEVER (and ideally never be asked to) deliver work that is ALL THREE. It's not impossible, but it ends up being worse than slave-labor, and it's soul-crushing to try and pull off. I'm not saying it never happens. It's just not fair to you, the creator, if it does. And what’s even worse is, if you take this type of project with those restrictions, you'll always be identified as the guy or gal who will work for peanuts. This is a tough place to move out of if you ever want to attract larger budget clients with more time to produce the real work you want to create. 

This puzzle isn't always straightforward to navigate because often, you might not know where boundaries are between these three. You might think you are delivering work that is both good and fast, that is NOT cheap, but in reality, perhaps you aren't getting paid as much as you think you are. Let's look at some scenarios. 

Scenario 1: Cheap + Good: Let's say you get a call for custom photography or video production services. As you are thinking about your project, you might decide you want a cheap (low cost) option. Also, you think you would like a photo or video production that is of good quality. This scenario is a pretty standard way of thinking. Still, always keep in mind, it will invariably take MUCH more time to deliver this type of product or service.

Scenario 2: Cheap + Fast: If a prospect is asking you to produce a cheap set of photos or videos, fast, excellent quality is most likely out of the question. Having said that, I do have a few tips here for considering. 

I haven't done many "cheap" projects over the years that demanded "high quality and fast" services. However, unfortunately, I think photography can very often fall under this heading. There are many times, however, when we get calls for more simple projects like company headshots. Projects like this are relatively easy for me to turn-around out quickly, with a high level of quality, and I don't have to bill an arm and a leg for these.

With jobs like this, it's essential to be very systematic about your approach so that you can deliver the product or service very quickly and at a high quality. As a business owner, think of the ways you package your products and services and streamline your processes. Doing this, can keep you out of the "not possible" area. 

Scenario 3: Good + Fast: What if a prospect calls you asking for good quality photography or video but has a very short deadline and therefore needs them fast? With this scenario, the odds are against the prospect if they want the project at a low price point. They are simply not considering the time it takes to produce a quality photo or video production at a fast rate. (Don't know what your thoughts are, but I would expect this type of service to be very expensive!)

For prospects wanting quality photography or high-end video productions in a short amount of time, they should have a reasonable budget. Don't be afraid to ask for it. 

Do some market research and ask your clients what matters most to them. Ask your client, "what are your priorities"? Then, you may be able to develop or modify your products and services around what their needs and budgets are. Meeting your clients where they are in terms of their actual needs will increase the experience they have with you, and make them feel like you've delivered services just for them.

The bottom line, as a creative content producer, make sure you are comfortable with what you are required to produce for the available budget and time restraints on the table. Heck, print out this blog article as a guide if you need to! We put our hearts and souls (and many sleepless nights) into our work. When the phone rings next time, make sure you are not afraid to ask to be compensated fairly.

TRAVIS DUNCAN  |  ADVERTISING PHOTOGRAPHER BASED IN THE MIDWEST.  SPECIALIZING IN: PRODUCTS & ARCHITECTURAL PHOTOGRAPHY, and VIDEO PRODUCTIONS. 

Travis Duncan Photography | Advertising • Corporate • Motion

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